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Ontario election leaders debate: Running highlights of Wynne, Hudak and Horwath

By Chris Hannay

Liberal Leader Kathleen Wynne, Progressive Conservative Leader Tim Hudak and NDP Leader Andrea Horwath are in CBC’s Toronto studio tonight for the one and only debate of the 2014 Ontario election. It was 90 minutes long and was hosted by TVO’s Steve Paikin.

The format: video questions from citizens of Ontario that the leaders must respond to.

Follow Globe reporters Sahar Fatima, Adrian Morrow, Adam Radwanski and Kaleigh Rogers on Twitter.

Click here for a quick summary of where the parties stand on the important issues. And for subscribers, here’s our latest analysis of the very up-and-down Ontario polls.

Ontario NDP leader Andrea Horwath, left, Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne, centre, and Ontario PC leader Tim Hudak, right, take part in the live leaders debate at CBC during the Ontario election in Toronto on Tuesday, June 3, 2014. (Frank Gunn/Canadian Press)

Ontario NDP leader Andrea Horwath, left, Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne, centre, and Ontario PC leader Tim Hudak, right, take part in the live leaders debate at CBC during the Ontario election in Toronto on Tuesday, June 3, 2014. (Frank Gunn/Canadian Press)

 

First round: ethics

A resident of Guelph, in southwestern Ontario, got the first question: How can I trust a Liberal government with my money, given scandals involving wasted money, such as the gas-plants cancellations?  It was addressed to Ms. Wynne, and Ms. Horwath had a chance to debate the issue with her. Mr. Hudak leapt in at the end.

Liberal Leader Kathleen Wynne takes part in the Ontario provincial leaders debate in Toronto, Tuesday June 3, 2014. (Mark Blinch/Canadian Press)

Liberal Leader Kathleen Wynne. (Mark Blinch/Reuters)

 

Second round: energy

A resident from Ajax, in the Greater Toronto Area, asked the leaders about keeping electricity prices low. It was addressed to Ms. Horwath and Mr. Hudak had a chance to debate it with her. Ms. Wynne jumped in after.

NDP Leader Andrea Horwath. (Frank Gunn/Canadian Press)

NDP Leader Andrea Horwath. (Frank Gunn/Canadian Press)

 

Third round: jobs

A resident from Peterborough, in central Ontario, asked Mr. Hudak: how do you reconcile eliminating 100,000 public-sector jobs with your “One Million Jobs Plan”?

Progressive Conservative Leader Tim Hudak. (Mark Blinch/Reuters)

Progressive Conservative Leader Tim Hudak. (Mark Blinch/Reuters)

 

Fourth round: the budget

A resident of Waterloo, in southwestern Ontario, asks Ms. Wynne: what would you cut from the government to balance the budget?

Ms. Wynne and Mr. Hudak. (Mark Blinch/Reuters)

Ms. Wynne and Mr. Hudak. (Mark Blinch/Reuters)

 

Fifth round: transit

A resident of Cobourg, outside Toronto, asked why drivers should subsidize the costs of major public transit projects in Toronto.

Ms. Horwath and Ms. Wynne. (Frank Gunn/Canadian Press)

Ms. Horwath and Ms. Wynne. (Frank Gunn/Canadian Press)

 

Sixth round: education

A resident of Newmarket, part of the Greater Toronto Area, asked Mr. Hudak what he would do for high-school students and for teachers’ job security.

Final statements

At the end, all three leaders had a chance to make their final pitches to Ontarians watching.

Leaders arrive

Before the action began, the leaders arrived at CBC’s office in Toronto to prepare for the debate — and there were big crowds waiting to greet them.

Published Tuesday, Jun. 03 2014, 10:09 PM GMT+0000
Last edited Wednesday, Jun. 04 2014, 12:14 AM GMT+0000

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